no problems for me either, being the CEO of a large IT company I'm sure you'll be able to find out whats wrong.

Once you get the splash up, go to the tools Icon, top right.

In there you will find a start up option and you can set to close when EVE launches and Only open for updates.

I clicked them both and EVE launches the same as it did pre1.5 and like you, the game is slow now. Ilogged in earlier and there were around 18K on, I moved a character 18 jumps over 4 regions and every system, the load time was 2 minutes+ for overview. After getting to the station I wanted to be in, I couldn't use the market, couldn't view my wallet, was being dropped 3 times average every 10 minutes.

I don't know what they did but it isn't "working as intended". Unles they intended to force us all to dock up and not play for a week.

Yes. Largely because you'd be doing your customers the most significant favour in their lives.

You really should have picked a different simile since the issue the case you describe unequivocally lies with IE.

By the way, not being a tech CEO / CTO, but rather a social science researcher, I'm having none of the issues you describe over six installations on four machinesGǪ so the whole Gǣtone down the arroganceGǥ theme you're trying to run with here should probably be directed somewhere else.

You can still launch the game without using the launcher just run the exe for the game instead of the launcher, its just a new front for launching the game for now. Updates as far as i'm aware can still be downloaded via the old method as my launcher failed to update the game so ran exe and updated via the old method now its working.

As for the launcher not loading run the repair tool from the eve folder, some people i've spoken too had the same issue with it not launching the launcher or getting a black screen.

No need for that fella, we arnt the computer expert ceo's of a massive IT company that cant get spaceship game to work...

While I agree with this post to an extent I also disagree.. So here is my rant on this subject

Being the CEO / CTO of a "large internet company" is of no consequence when it comes to the goings on in eve. The problem here is not what you do for a living, it's what you can't do in practice... I agree that calling an issue such as this "operator error". is false and has been the stance of CCP and most of it's player base for far too long

The loader is great in theory and idea. However, it does fail in execution. If it were 1 localized exception of it not working, then things might be a bit different but there are many people that have been having issues getting it to run at all. This is not due to themselves as users, or even the type of machine you are running on..

There just wasn't enough testing done on this, and if there was I didn't know about it until it came out and I had to spend 4 hours figuring it out in order to make it work for me - on 2 different computers and 12 different eve installations (8 on 1 and 4 on the other). But, it ended up working and I got in game and was able to begin my skill training again..

Now I didn't actually want to post about the loader in this rant because that's not the driving force behind me logging in to post at all. The reason for me posting is the whole "CEO/CTO" thing that the OP holds so near and dear

Being a CEO doesn't mean that you understand anything about code or anything of the sort. Being a CTO doesn't even mean that (yes I know what CTO is supposed to know).. "Large Internet Company" could be anything. You could be the CEO of amazon.com, but that doesn't mean that you know anything about software development.

Hell, you could be the CEO of blizzard entertainment, but that doesn't mean you know anything about the software development methods that CCP uses. In the software development game, there are multiple ways of going about doing the same thing.. Sometimes CCP excels, and sometimes they fail horribly sure... But it still doesn't mean that they need to be bombarded by useless posts on the forums such as this one..

I think that the real purpose behind the OP, wasn't to degrade CCP or the loader for not working -- but just another immature little boy trying to raise the e-peen flag. At least that's what it seems like to me. So if i'm feeding into it, my apologies. But really man, no one gives a **** if you're CEO of microsoft or other large company - it doesn't matter and isn't a term that exudes knowledge. Anyone can be a CEO, even a CEO of a successful company. It literally means nothing when it comes to this game..

I myself am a CEO, I don't claim to the best or the smartest there ever was -- nor do I even begin to grasp the understanding of "Software Development" to the level that CCP has shown us. My company merely does web development, it's new - its small... But me being CEO doesn't mean jack **** here.

If you are truely CEO and think that you / your team can do better -- then do it.. Simple as that... We have EVE now it's your turn to shut the **** up about your supposed 'social status' and bring out the game: ADAM (yes it's a biblical reference - no im not religious just thought it'd be funny to being able to respond to the question "what game do you play?" - "oh i play ADAM & EVE"

So until you actually go through the physical steps that CCP has gone through over the past few years, putting out a piece of software to the extent that CCP has done it over the years.. Or having to deal with whiny bitches like yourselves and half of the forums every time something doesn't work (me included sometimes) claiming to know how to do it better.. Then shut the **** up already..

CCP does a damn good job at what they do. Sure they are misguided plenty, but the end result is a good product that I for one am happy to pay for.. So give them credit where credit is due, instead of trying to belittle them constantly pointing out every single flaw in 1000's of posts on the forums... CCP has put out one hell of a game, so thanks CCP... And even though I had issues with the loader and spent 4 hours trying to figure out how to make it work -- i like the idea of it..

enjoy.

I agree, it can be infuriating to deal with for sure. But to create a post on the forums about it isn't going to do anything about it. It's better to keep a level head, look at the issues and errors it gives you and see if CCP has already created a fix for it (in my case, it was running the repair.exe 12 times - tedious but it fixed it).

CCP does a great job with the game, and I for one want to thank them for everything they've done to better the game - and belittle them for everything they've done to destroy the game(in my opinion - such as WiS)... But I don't do it openly in a forum, because it's not constructive - and does nothing to further my cause for the future enjoyment of eve.

Plenty of people have had issues with this patch, there is no denying that... So in that respect I do agree that there should have been more testing either internally on every possible computer configuration (that'd be a metric ****-ton of computers).. or some other way of testing it (was it ever on the test server? I don't know as I don't use the test server)... But there are more intelligent ways about venting about the issues you're having with the patch -- plus the creation of new threads per person who experiences the same issue only further perpetuates the issue because who wants to read 10,000 posts that pretty much say 'it doesnt work, you suck CCP'

Instead, perhaps a solution to this issue would be a smart-forum that CCP could implement... Instead of having everything in the general discussion board of the forums -- perhaps add-in a "Latest Patch Discussion" that is available on patch day and perhaps only open for 12-18 hours...

Each new topic is gone through (using code - REGEX more than likely) and determines if it is a duplicate -- if it is -- it adds the new topic as a response to the previous topic. If it's not, it allows the creation of the current topic... This would cut down on the amount of threads that effectively say the same thing -- and all the information is in 1 spot for other people to read and/or ignore...

Then for the General Discussion - any topic about the latest patch is thereby permanently moved to the "Latest Patch Discussion" letting the other stuff shine through...

And this is just one idea that could possibly work to help at least alleviate the thousands of topics that CCP MUST read (despite the fact they don't want to - hell I don't read half of them because there isn't enough time in the day to deal with all the tears).. Any other good ideas?

Mr big shot IT company owner. Ring your IT department and ask them. They will probably say something like this.

Press the little windows icon in the bottom left.
In the searchbar type "System restore"
Pick the most recent restore point (hopefully you have one per month. I think thats a default windows setting)
Restore system to previous point
Re download EVE update.

See what happens.

Basic IT trouble shooting techniques FTW

So your have no idea how windows works then?

Sometimes data gets corrupted or something slight can go wrong causing problems. For all we know your computer may have had a slight failure causing the game not to work on your machine. In such a case its not CCP's fault its your pc's fault (notice i didnt say your fault) this is why microsoft put the system restore tool there. I have also just outlined what you need to do.

Just because your computer doesnt like this particular software update doesnt make it the company who produced it's fault. AS it seems to have worked on the majority of machines (including mine) then we can safely assume its either a specific problem with your computer or its hardware configuration or a problem has occured during download and install (corrupt file, misplaced directory or something menial like that) and not "CCP INSULTING ITS CUSTOMERS 20k of which are playing the game right now with few problems"

First off try my method, if that doesnt work then its obviously wont have been a problem during download, install and cofiguration of the patch. At this point I would say get in touch with ccp and tell them your system configuration and they might be able to implement a fix that could potential help other players who might be suffering the same dilema.

....I dont know why im bothering to try and help cos your clearly here to ***** and whine like a little girl whos just been told off by her daddy for eating all the cake fatty.

stopped reading here ^

you're obviously trying too hard
oh... and eve works fine

Maybe you should learn to read nub cake. I didnts say you were the only one having issues you tool.

Maybe you should keep you fail to yourself cos your clearly failing to do stuff with any level of intelligence.

*high pitched squeaky voice "oh no's im 10 years old and my eve are broked this is ccp's fault i will make up random crap so that people join me in my fight to hate ccp"

You sir are the reason why im so fat

Snedige Rendel logged into EVE at 14:38, I assume from a computer he hasn't mangled.